known as the "Online Liquidators" or the "Toronto Group"
1 They will nearly always sell 50+ Greek and Roman silver coins at once, with an auction time of around three days!
Sometimes they will also offer smaller quantities (between 10 and 35) per auction, and mix them with genuine inexpensive bronze or silver coins!
2. They nearly always use brandnew eBay ID's, with a low seller feedback (mostly between 5 and 15, sometimes just over 30),
consisting of cheap items sold within a few days of each other.Their positive comments have usually been posted within
days of the end of the sales, by people who paid through paypal. At the same time the auctions of these mass fakes will
not accept paypal themselves (because eBay owns Paypal)!
3. They always use private auction to shield the bidder ID's (and prevent anyone from warning their bidders) and lately even private feedback!
4. Their images will either be linked from http://members.sparedollar.com, http://members.rogers.com or they will use IPIX images, and they
will be operating from Canada, while sometimes pretending to be from various locations (states) in the USA.
5. Their silver coins will include relative rarities for starting prices which are to good to be true
(mostly between $1- and $199-), with less bidders than these coins would have if they were genuine,
because most experienced collectors know these are cast fakes!
If you don't believe me just ask around in any of the following mailing lists on ancient coins:
Moneta-L and CDFL .
6. Upon close inspection some of their coin images even look like cast coins and these will not withstand a detailed comparison with
genuine coins found at http://www.wildwinds.com Other images of their coins may actually be photographs of genuine ancient coins,
but their victims will always receive cast copies of those originals!
7. Shortly after their auctions on eBay have ended they will remove the images and discontinue their ebay ID!
The exception to this are their aliases "cnsprty", "hvarotc" and "bricklayeranc" which they have been using for more than one series of auctions
before they were discontinued!
"Online Liquidators / Toronto Group" have so far been using the following eBay ID's:
"ringleeder", "crown_numismatics", "ancients_ltd", "time_less_ness", "oceans_purity", "priceless_value", "generic_online",
"goldnrome", "kdl_coins", "sempercoin", "ancient_whisper", "quality_coin5", "dealingoods93", "cnsprty", "jflame42",
"colbnus5", "sandersonk9" "fsgross1s", "peelst28", "kalahari18y", "coinoasis", "stpatnumis", "naurugold", "irishnumis",
"hosta42001", "ancient_cnz1", "hailtiberius", "hvarotc", "leasinure", "bricklayeranc", "power_of_love", "kingofcoin4",
"jupiterswrath", "cointemplar", "bricksoftime"
Images included here are from their incarnations as "ringleeder" (April, 2002), "ancients_ltd" (May, 2002), "goldnrome", "kdl_coins"
(September, 2002), "sempercoin" (November, 2002), "ancient_whisper" (November 2002), "quality_coin5" (December, 2002),
"dealingoods93" (January, 2003), "jflame42" (March, 2003), "colbnus5" (April, 2003), "fgross1s" (June, 2003) ,
"cnsprty" (February, May & June, 2003), "peelst28" (July 2003), "kalahari18y" (July 2003) , "coinoasis" (September 2003) ,
"stpatnumis" (September 2003) , "ancient_cnz1" (October 2003) , "hailtiberius" (October 2003), "hvarotc" (November 2003 & January 2004),
"leasinure" (November 2003), "bricklayeranc" (December 2003 and January 2004), "power_of_love" (January 2004),
"kingofcoin4" (February 2004), "cointemplar" (April 2004), "bricksoftime" (April 2004)
Upates with pictures from several of their latest aliases are now in progress!
Bidders on their coins will sometimes be referred to the Online Liquidators website(s) which changes URL's
currently they have one at http://members.rogers.com/online_liquidators/ol1.htm
If the above URL changes see a copy of that site here
Note the numerous duplicate coins which come from several of their incarnations!
Click on the images to see the details!
Phoenicia Tyre AR Shekel BIBLICAL Melqart
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Argos Amphilochikon AR Stater Pegasus
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - cick for details
Phoenicia Tyre Biblical Shekel 118BC Melqart
Sold by Online Liquidators under 1 alias - click for details
Phoenicia Tyre Biblical Shekel 98BC Melqart
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Phoenicia Arados AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Pamphylia Side AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Attica, Athens, 449BC AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under at least 9 aliases - click for details
Syracuse AR Stater Agathokles Pegasus
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Cilicia, Tarsos Mazaios Satrap Stater
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Pamphylia, Aspendos AR Stater, wrestlers
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Thasos AR Stater, Satyr and Nymph
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Moesia Istros AR Stater Twin heads
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Thasos AR Tetradrachm Dionysos
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Lysimachus AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Syria/Seleukid Antiochos VIII & Cleopatra Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under at least 2 aliases - click for details
Aegina 350-338 BC Land Tortoise
Sold by Online Liquidators under at least 2 aliases - click for details
Baktria, Eukratides I, 171-145 BC AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under at least 1 alias - click for details
Philip II Macedon AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Alexander III the great Lifetime Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - cick for details
Alexander III AR Tetradrachm Pella
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Alexander III AR Tetradrachm Mesembria
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Antigonos Gonatas Tetradrachm 277-239 BC
Sold by Online Liquidators under 1 alias - click for details
Antigonos Doson Tetradrachm 229-221 BC
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Aesillas 70BC Macedon AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Macedon after 148 BC Tetradrachm Amphipolis
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Ptolemy I AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Ptolemy III AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Ptolemy XII AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Antiochos VII AR Tetradrachm, Tyre
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Philip Philadelphos AR Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Ahenobardus AR Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under at least 5 aliases - cick for details
Sextus Pompey Magnus Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - cick for details
Albinus Bruti F. 48 BC AR Denarius Gallic Trumpets
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - cick for details
M Junius Brutus 54 BC AR Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - cick for details
Julius Caesar AR Denarius Aeneas
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Julius Caesar AR Denarius Trophy
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Julius Caesar AR Denarius Ceres, Sacrif, Pontif Maxim
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Julius Caesar AR Denarius Elephant
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Mark Antony and Augustus Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Mark Antony Sol Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
CLEOPATRA and Mark Antony Denarius RARE
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Mark Antony Lucius Antony Denarius RARE!!!
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Octavian (Augustus) AR Denarius Chariot
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Octavian (Augustus) AR Denarius Neptune
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Octavian (Augustus) Trophy Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Octavian (Augustus) AR Denarius Venus
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Augustus AR Denarius Caius and Lucius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Augustus AR Denarius Bull
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Augustus AR Denarius Boar Speared
Sold by Online Liquidators under 1 alias or more - click for details
Augustus AR Denarius Comet
Sold by Online Liquidators under 1 alias or more - click for details
Augustus Cistophoric Tetradrachm
Sold by Online Liquidators under 1 alias or more - click for details
Tiberius Biblical Tribute Penny Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Tiberius 14-37AD AR Denarius Quadriga
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Caligula and Divus Augustus AR Denarius, 2 stars
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Caligula and Divus Augustus Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Claudius Praetorian Camp 41-54AD AR Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Claudius and Agrippina 41-54AD AR Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Nero 54-68AD AR Denarius Roma
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Nero 54-68AD AR Denarius Salus
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Nero as Caesar AR Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Nero AR Denarius Eagle Standards
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Nero AR Denarius Jupiter
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Galba 68AD AR Denarius Concordia
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Galba 68-69AD AR Denarius Roma
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Galba 68-69AD AR Denarius Diva Augusta
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Galba AR DenariusSPQR
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Otho 69AD AR Denarius Pont Maxim
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
OTHO 69AD AR Denarius VICTORY
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
OTHO 69AD AR Denarius Pax
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Otho 69 AD Denarius Securitas
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Vitellius 69AD AR Denarius, Dolphin and Raven
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Vitellius AR Denarius Libertas
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Vitellius 69AD AR Denarius Children
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Vitellius 69AD AR Denarius Victory
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Vitellius 69AD AR Denarius Pont Maxim
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Vespasian AR Denarius Judaea
Sold by Online Liquidators under 7 aliases - click for details
Vespasian AR Denarius Barley
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Vespasian AR Denarius Children
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Vespasian 69-79AR Denarius Sacrificial
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Vespasian AR Denarius Capricorns
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Titus AR Denarius Judaea trophy
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Titus AR Denarius Elephant
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Titus AR Denarius Slow Quadriga
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Titus AR Denarius thunderbolt
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Titus AR Denarius Judaea Palm Tree
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Titus 79-81AD AR Denarius Sow
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Domitian 79-81AD AR Denarius Helmet
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Domitian as Caesar Clasped Hands
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Domitian AR Denarius Wolf and Twins
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Domitian AR Denarius, Dolphin and Altar
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Domitian AR Denarius Altar
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Domitian AR Denarius Princeps
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Nerva AR Denarius Clasped Hands
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Hadrian AR Denarius Nilus
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Hadrian AR Denarius Africa
Sold by Online Liquidators under 3 aliases - click for details
Hadrian AR Denarius Hispania
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Aelius Denarius 136-138AD
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Commodus AR Denarius Herculi Romano
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Pertinax 193AD Denarius Laetitia
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Pertinax 193AD Denarius Providentia
Sold by Online Liquidators under 1 aliases - click for details
Didius Julianus 193AD AR Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Clodius Albinus AR Denarius
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Caracalla AR Denarius Sol in quadriga
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Macrinus 217-218AD AR Denarius Securitas
Sold by Online Liquidators under 7 aliases - click for details
Macrinus 217-218AD AR Denarius Fides
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Diadumenian 218AD AR Denarius Spes
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Diadumenian 217-218AD AR Denarius Princeps
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Julia Mamaea AR Antoninianus
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Maximus 236-238AD AR Denarius Princeps
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Maximus 236-238AD AR Denarius Pietas
Sold by Online Liquidators under 2 aliases - click for details
Balbinus 238 AD AR Denarius Victoria
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Balbinus 238AD AR Antoninianus,Pietas VF
Sold by Online Liquidators under 7 aliases - click for details
Balbinus 238AD AR Denarius Liberalitas
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Balbinus 238AD AR Antoninianus Concordia
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Balbinus 238AD AR Antoninianus Fides
Sold by Online Liquidators under 6 aliases - click for details
Pupienus 238AD AR Denarius Pax
Sold by Online Liquidators under 4 aliases - click for details
Pupienus 238 AD AR Denarius Felicitas
Sold by Online Liquidators under 5 aliases - click for details
Pupienus 238AD AR Antoninianus Amor
Sold by Online Liquidators under 7 aliases - click for details